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To https://www.canadagoosepark.com a surprising degree it was the same frustration I felt arguing with the creationists. At one point Murphy [George Murphy, a theologian from Akron] told me that God is the ground of all being, not a being Himself. That is a phrase you often see in canada goose outlet online high brow Christian theology, but I haven the faintest idea what it means. I asked Murphy what it meant. canada goose outlet new york city Words came out of his mouth in reply, but I still have no idea what it means.

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And I have yet to see someone suggesting a working way to prevent a Malthusian crash without completely marginalizing religion and, most importantly, the influence it has on people thinking (the vast majority of people who self determine as non believers still have a large part of their thinking primarily shaped by religion, it is the society we have grown in and its inescapable influence).

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The speakers were keen to stress their own Christian faith and their dismay that so many feel they must choose between science and religion. This, mind you, at a paleontology conference. Who’s mixing science and religion, again?…

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